tv Outside Source BBC News August 17, 2017 9:00pm-9:31pm BST
hello, i'm still at the thomas and you are watching outside source. terror on the streets of barcelona isa van terror on the streets of barcelona is a van ploughed into a crowd in the popular tourist area of las ramblas. the catalan government says at least 30 people are dead. it looked to me as if he was going left to right hitting people at the little stands, all ofa sudden people were screaming and running. catalan police say this is a terror attack. they said two people have been arrested. they have dismissed early reports that two gunmen were holed up in a bar in the city possibly with a hostage. welcome to outside source. we are continuing the bbc‘s live coverage of the terror attack in spain, where
ivan has driven into crowds, killing at least 13 people. —— where a van. this happened in barcelona in the north—east of spain. if i take you into the city, you can see that we have highlighted the area where it occurred. las ramblas. this is a real tourist hotspot in the heart of barcelona. a white van mounted the pavement and drove into pedestrians. as we said, 13 people have been killed. we are hearing that more than 80 others have been injured and 50 may have been hospitalised. the numbers are changing as we report it. according to police, what happened on las ramblas was that the fan entered to the north of the area into the pedestrian zone. it sped down at a great pace, coming to a halt about halfway down the strip, charging through people. just to give you an idea of how busy this a lwa ys give you an idea of how busy this always is, this picture was taken only yesterday. it is a very popular tourist spot. police confirmed on
twitter they have arrested two people and said that despite earlier reports there is no hostage situation and there are no other gunmen in the city. that is something that was really frightening people in barcelona. they have released one picture, a picture that i want to show you. this man is driss oukabir. he rented the van involved in the incident. this is the catalonia police, the cata la n this is the catalonia police, the catalan police twitter account. they are calling it a terrorism attack. now, aamer ansar was in barcelona and he told us about it. he spoke to the bbc by phone. it was a beautiful, sunny day. las ramblas is right in the heart of the city, it is jam—packed with thousands of tourists. i was about to sit down for something to eat. then i decided to walk down a bit further. next thing, literally seconds later, heard a crashing noise.
the whole street, i started hearing screaming. everybody started to run, so i started to run in the direction people were running. families were screaming, their kids, they were taking them out of prams and started to run. within seconds, police officers were out. i noticed yesterday when i arrived in the city that, you know, there is a heavy police presence. guns were out, ambulances, fire engines. you could see at the top of the street, a sort of like vans. and then i spoke to someone and tried to get into a shop, people were panicking. there was a shopkeeper who was speaking, said something about a van. i tried to ask him, and he said that a van had driven into the crowd, and six people were very seriously injured. at that point, the ambulances, fire brigade, police officers were on the scene with machine guns and guns, very quickly. they were very jittery and people were panicking.
and then we were pushed back again, and then pushed further back. we kept getting pushed back. the police are absolutely everywhere at the moment. also listening to spanish radio and reading media report is tom burridge, former spanish correspondent in spain. we have one name and picture so far of somebody involved. we have been shown the photo of driss oukabir. he, according to spanish media, is basically a guy who was born in morocco, he had legal residency in spain. there is various bits of information coming out about him in the spanish media. i think everything i say from here onwards, you know, take with a bit of caution at the moment and tell it comes out officially from official sources. some media are saying that this guy had spent time in prison in spain previously, and was released in 2012, according to some reports. an
clear from what offences. and some reports suggest that he travelled to morocco recently and returned to barcelona and catalonia not long ago. but then another report in the spanish newspaper is saying that this guy turned himself into the police and is claiming that his id was stolen. so he is a victim too is his story possibly? that could be his story possibly? that could be his line to the police, whether or not that is true, the police are investigating. things are developing. what we can say for certain is that there was a vehicle out on that next diagonal, another main avenue in barcelona, not far from las ramblas. a car broke through a police checkpoint hours after the attack and made a on las ramblas. it could be another cart. it made an attack. a different vehicle broke through the police cordon and was tracked down to an
area outside the city, two or three kilometres to the west of barcelona. according to spanish media, there was a short so bright shoot out that, and one people have been killed —— there was a shoot out on one person has been killed. two people arrested, one of them was this man, driss oukabir. they will be questioning him now. we are talking about the van that ploughed through las ramblas and a separate car hit the two police officers and there was a shoot out. we know that. there is also a watch on another town outside of barcelona. which may be connected, maybe not. hello there is another vehicle. according to one spanish media, they are insinuating that that vehicle was involved in the attack somehow. that it had also been rented. now, it is definitely the case, i think, from quite a good source of information, the mayoress of that town in barcelona, it is a
limit is outside of barcelona, the mayoress said that vehicle is part of the investigation. whether or not it is will become clear in time. we have clearer figures of the scale of this attack, and sadly how many people have been caught up in it. they are talking about 90 people caught up in it, 80 people in hospital, 12 people seriously injured. we were talking earlier, it was interesting, you know, about the security. yes, madrid a few years ago when i was there, there was suddenly a big change when there are so suddenly a big change when there are so back were other terror attacks outside of europe —— when there were other terror attacks. there was a heavy police presence with impressive weaponry standing outside by art gallery and ring station. that was a sea change in spain. but the headache problem for the security services around europe and around the world is, how do you stop someone a van and around the world is, how do you stop someone a van and driving it into a crowded area is what somebody hiring
a van. we haven't got any information, birmingham weaponry —— we haven't got any information concerning weaponry aside from a van. that is the difficulty, it is a crowded area in the heart of the city, a network of small streets off it. the driver of that vehicle, who reports the fled on foot, it is unclear whether he is still at large or whether he is one of the two people detained by the police. we will be talking to another security expert later in this edition of outside source. we should say that already in terms of intelligence gathering, cooperation with other countries, there is of course the eu coming together over this. the americans, rex tillerson the secretary of state has already said we will put resources at your disposal. it is notjust one government that swings into action when something like this happens. definitely not. there is all of the m essa 9 es definitely not. there is all of the m essa g es of definitely not. there is all of the messages of solidarity from around the world, across europe, very clear. on a security level, spain
works in close conjunction with police forces across europe, particularly in france, obviously. france and belgium who have faced the mueller threats. they work with police here in britain on certain issues —— similar threats. when i was living in spain, i left about three orfour was living in spain, i left about three or four years was living in spain, i left about three orfour years ago, was living in spain, i left about three or four years ago, you was living in spain, i left about three orfour years ago, you know, there were multiple incidents. it was quite regular that people were being arrested at suspected of travelling to join the so—called islamic state group in iraq or syria. you know, this is an issue that the spanish government, the interior ministry there, have been working to get on top. the interesting thing to mention is that, you know, actually, if you step back from it and look at the politics, catalonia has its own government with a lot of devolved powers. but that government is pushing to hold a referendum at the beginning of october. they want to go ahead with it. the spanish governor, they are saying, you can't do that, it is illegal under the constitution. this saga has been
rolling on for years, and it is coming toa rolling on for years, and it is coming to a head in october. the spanish president is on his way up to catalonia. at such a sad, tragic time there will be a big show of solidarity between the spanish government and the catalan government, who politically have been at loggerheads, and strong state m e nts been at loggerheads, and strong statements coming up from mccain tonight, king philippe, saying, we are all barcelona —— coming from the king. let me know if anything is coming through from your spanish sources. a reminder of our mains worry an outside source to like a fan has driven into crowds killing 13 people in barcelona —— our main story on outside sourced... an american tourist had just arrived in the city when the sitak began unfolding. —— when this attack began unfolding. this afternoon i came in on a flight, and i was in a taxi just turning onto las ramblas. maybe just a block and a half from the town. i was just looking at the boulevard, from the back of the taxi.
and then i heard this group of people scream at the same time. and you just don't think of this, naturally. and then i looked to my left, and i saw a white van with its front looking like it was broken out. and it was going as... at first i thought it must be somebodyjust working and driving, like a service vehicle. then i realised he was going entirely too fast. it looked to me as if he was going left—to—right, hitting people at the little stands. there were people shopping, basically. and all of a sudden people were just screaming and running. my taxi stopped. we knew immediately, you know, naturally, what was happening and what was going on at that moment. and we waited for a second. and my taxi driverjust started saying, oh my god, oh my god. and i was in shock. and then we just turned
right around the corner, because i was literally to my hotel. and i ran into the hotel. and then everyone was running into any space, of course, that they could find safety. and they were coming into the hotel and screaming. interestingly, i turned around and they were starting to run the other way. and that was when the hotel staff put me behind the front desk down on the ground. and that that point ijust... it just seemed surreal. they got all of us together into a ballroom, just in the entrance of the hotel, which to me didn't feel safe at all because there was really no... there was nobody armed to protect the room of people. and for better or for worse, i left the room and i said, just give me a room key now. they gave me a key and i came upstairs. because i figured i would rather be
one person in hundreds of rooms than hundreds of people in one room. and now i'm just... as i can see everybody across at the other hotel, everybody is just watching out of their window, watching, what now? we are going to keep you up—to—date on what is happening in barcelona. we have some other stories we want to bring you on this edition of outside source. in sierra leone, mass burials are being held for many of the people being killed in a mudslide that took place on the outskirts of the capital, freetown. we know that 400 people died there. many of them children. and 600 others are still thought to be missing. martin patience has talked to some of those who lost homes and relatives in this disaster. i'm outside one of the offices where aid is supposed to arrive, but people
are going hungry and they do not have sheltered. i'm with somebody from the community who was affected by this disaster. your name is francis, sir. what does your community need? we need shelter. we need shelter, food, community and government. everything has washed away. some of us escapes, we managed to escape. has any assistance got through? there has been a trickle of assistance, but not enough? we have assistance, but not enough? we have assistance, but not enough. because we are too many. too many, but still, we have enough in this community, we have nowhere to go now, we don't have sheltered, i don't think we will also arrive. i don't think we will also arrive. i don't know what we will do. please, we are begging the governments, ngos, we are begging the governments, ngos, other bodies to help us. if not... i don't know.
ngos, other bodies to help us. if not... idon't know. idon't this is a community that needs more resistance. i saw dozens of families living in a unfinished home. people don't have sheltered, many are going hungry, and they say their own government, as well as others, are standing by. studio: you are watching outside source life from the bbc newsroom. terror on the streets of barcelona isa van terror on the streets of barcelona is a van ploughs into a crowd in the popular tourist area of las ramblas. the catalan government says 13 people are dead. elsewhere, around the bbc, our stories include south african police issuing a red alert at the country's borders for zimbabwe's at the country's borders for zimba bwe's first lady, at the country's borders for zimbabwe's first lady, grace mugabe. she is accused of hitting a 20—year—old woman over the head with an extension cord in a hotel room nearjohannesburg. another very sad story. a ten—year—old rape victim who was the denied permission for an abortion by the indian supreme court
last month has given birth to a baby girl. the girl is not aware she has given birth. she was told during her pregnancy that her bold was because she had a big stone in her stomach. there is more on that on bbc hindi. i want to take you back to our top story. at least 13 people have been killed in barcelona in spain when a van drove into a crowded forest area. iwant van drove into a crowded forest area. i want tojust —— van drove into a crowded forest area. i want to just —— crowded tourist area. we have got the bbc live page. if you are email@example.com, there is much more on the live page. for example, eyewitness reports talking about what it was like to be there. the panic, people running, there were hundreds and hundreds of people out there. there are also photographs for example on the page of people lining up to give blood tonight, because we know that at least 50 people were hospitalised. a lot more for you there and we are keeping on top of it online. some updates. we
are across all of the news sources. we have had this from the foreign minister of belgium. among the 13 who died it is believed one belgian national was killed in this van attack. the prime minister, mariano rajoy, has said he is en route to barcelona and he will coordinate effo rts barcelona and he will coordinate efforts to reinforce security. there is not only an investigation going on, people ask ed, they are very worried about what is happening there and what could still happen —— people are worried. former spain correspondent tom ridge, for people who are just correspondent tom ridge, for people who arejustjoining us, i have said that 13 people dead and 50 hospitalised. but we have got a number of different stories? so, the main terrorist attack in las ramblas, such a crowded area this time of year. they are talking about 90 people being affected, but we can say 80 in hospital. so 80 people injured, potentially. 15 of those in
a serious condition. as you say, 13 people dead. police are saying they have so far arrested two people. one of them is this man called driss oukabir, who, according to spanish media, rented the van. there is one confusing report of him claiming he handed himself in to the police and had his id stolen. let's see whether thatis had his id stolen. let's see whether that is borne out to be true or not. the identity of the other person in police custody we are unclear about. are we from las ramblas we have got diagonal, a main avenue running through barcelona, eight avenue in terms of traffic there. las ramblas has traffic down the edge of it but it isa has traffic down the edge of it but it is a pedestrianised area. diagonal, a car, hours after the official attack, it went through a police cordon or checkpoint which had been set up following the attack. that car was followed to an area outside of barcelona west of
the city by a couple of kilometres. according to spanish media, there was a shoot out there and one suspect was killed. we are seeing live pictures from barcelona now. if you are there, you are still in, you don't know what is happening, obviously there are still a lot of security around, tom ? obviously there are still a lot of security around, tom? yes, the main tourism organisation there is saying about trying to find hotels for freak if people are basically stranded anywhere. there is a lot of lockdown in various parts of the city. i've been listening to spanish radio. a huge police presence on the streets. loads of tourists out for a night in the city on holiday, caught up. the height of the summer season. barcelona is alive at this time of year. it is a great city, i'm sure loads of people know it. it's got a really great and brazil. las ramblas is one of the hotspots. it does appear that that has been targeted deliberately —— it is a really great area. i have discussed this early in
the programme, what can be done, can it? ultimately up until now we only have confirmed that the only weapon in this attack at the moment is a van that was rented. you know, and thatis van that was rented. you know, and that is the headache for the security services. after geese and westminster bridge, you know, in brussels, we have always had this, is asian —— after nice. —— we have a lwa ys is asian —— after nice. —— we have always had this conversation. this is the headache for the counterterrorist authorities. what the security services in spain are trying to establish is the number of people who are involved in this attack. at the moment we have got two playbook in police custody, but you can't read into that too much at this stage —— two people. it could be that those people are released and found not to be connected with the attack. but, you know, there seems to be some anecdotal evidence that points towards more than one person involved. you know, we've got reports of the driver of the van
fleeing the scene on foot. we've got this incident on the edge of barcelona where one person is shot dead. we don't know whether that is the same person or not. we also have a van in thick, tens of kilometres outside of barcelona, apparently being investigated as part of the attack —— this van in vic. the information is coming from the mayor of that town. there seems to be various strands of the investigation. the police in barcelona and catalonia saying their investigation is very much the lack of. thanks, tom, for keeping us up—to—date —— is very active. we will tell you when we get any more developments. we are careful to tell you what we know and what we don't know. even though we are going to give across the situation in barcelona, we're going to get you across some of our other big stories this hour. one of which is donald trump, this hour. one of which is donald tru m p, cha rlottesville, this hour. one of which is donald trump, charlottesville, where the fallout from the violence in virginia at the weekend continues will stop there was a tweet sent by donald trump today, which rubbed
salt in the wounds reopened by the death and injuries in virginia at the weekend. what he said was that it was that, in his words, to see the history and culture... for some people, that is an incendiary tweet, because donald trump is referring to the age—old debate over relics of the proslavery southern confederacy, the side that was defeated in america's support war. that started the trouble in charlottesville, an organised protest against the removal of the statue of a confederate general. there are dozens more modern units like this around the united states. in fact, there is a map in the new york times, this shows the location of some of them. the marks in red show you where statues have been removed from public grounds. the marks in grey showing where statues and monuments are due to be taken
down, taken out of public sight. we can go to anthony zurcher, our correspondent in washington. anthony, i don't know if i've quite explain properlyjust how dramatic that tweet was, that fresh intervention from the president? yes, as you mentioned, the removal of the statue was the reason for the march in charlottesville on saturday. it's why there was that torchlight parade of white nationalists, white supremacist, who we re nationalists, white supremacist, who were taunting, blood and soil, and "dues will not replace us". it led to violent protests and the death of one of the counter—productive. —— one of the counter—productive. —— one of the counter—productive. —— one of the counter protesters. a few days later, donald trump essentially in tost the reason for the march, the argument that the marchers were making. it is coming down with both
feet on one side of this debate at a time when, as you mentioned, nerves are still very war. —— very raw. the bloodshed has only recently passed. it isa bloodshed has only recently passed. it is a pretty remarkable action for a president usually at times like these, presidents and that you as some sort of a cohesive bonding of the wounds, bringing the nation together. that is not what donald trump is done here. it is a decidedly different way to respond to what they tragic national event. anthony, i'm going to show our viewers with a minute left on this programme a tweet from sensitive cullen —— representative cullen, a democratic politician, saying he will be introducing articles of impeachment against donald trump. he said there are no good nas is all klansmen. you said there are no good nas is all kla nsmen. you expect said there are no good nas is all klansmen. you expect the democrats to be outraged, and is opposed since republicans are in control of the
house of congress, that won't go very far, but it is symbolic and interesting. it is symbolic, but it is not going to get anywhere as long as there is no bayern from the republican party. and the party has never impeached a member of their own party as president in the history of the united states. for a republican to turn on the president would be unprecedented. i think we area would be unprecedented. i think we are a long way from any sort of impeachment proceedings gaining traction. anthony, thanks for bringing us the latest update from washington, where this story does seem washington, where this story does seem to keep moving every day. we are watching how the story is moving in barcelona tonight, what is happening with the casualties there after that shocking terrorist attack. tuesday with us from the next edition of outside source in just a few minutes. —— do stay with us just a few minutes. —— do stay with us for the next edition of outside source. good evening. i know some may be travelling to the united states imminently to witness the solar
eclipse on sunday. just bear in mind there is some poor weather around at the moment, particularly for southern and eastern parts. we had storms brewing through the midwest and the plains today, heading up towards the great lakes. they towards the great lakes. will edge their way gradu eastwards. they are tied into the area of low pressure and you tie that in with the warm winds coming up from the gulf of mexico to the lively low pressure and you will get damaging winds from those storms. severe storms following withoshatp winds coming into western canada and british columbia, which could exacerbate the spread of the wildfires. i'm sure you will have heard about the devastating floods across the sierra leone region. it is the height of the rainy season, so we are expecting more heavy rain. the next couple of days afford a bit of respite. it is showers rather than the long persistent rain, but nevertheless, the potential for one of those systems to develop off the ethiopian highlands as we head into the weekend and early next
week, and that poses the risk of more significant rain. august is the height of the rainy season, as i said, so that is one we will keep an eye on. it has also been very wet in south—east asia. they are in the middle of the monsoon. the rain is easing a bit towards bangladesh and the north—east of india, but still feeding into the ganges, so we will see some more fairly widespread disruption and flooding, and it is not as if it is dry either. there are heavy showers around but over the next couple of days the heaviest of the rain could be focused around the central and eastern indian region, with a monsoon trough pepping up the rain, and also the monsoon winds pepping up the rains across the western gap, so those are the two areas where we could see it pushing into western india, where the heaviest rain warnings are out for. through friday and saturday.
nevertheless, there are further showers and intense showers to come up showers and intense showers to come up towards north—eastern areas of bangladesh, bhutan and the poll. —— and nepal. in australia, it is wind causing the issues and that continues to whip up from new south wales down to victoria, southern australia and tasmania, as well as across to new zealand, where rain is piling in. very wet indeed across the western side of the south island, and with heavy snow across the mountains. near galeforce winds and even storm force winds. winds continue to be an issue around greece, as you can see. the wildfires continue here, and the wind is increasing across portugal. if that weren't enough, the drier and hotter weather continues here for the next few days as well. more on uk outlook in half an hour. hello, i'm philip thomas, you are watching outside source. terror on the streets of barcelona as a van ploughs into a crowd in the popular tourist area of las ramblas. the cata la n tourist area of las ramblas. the catalan government has 13 people are dead. all of a sudden the police just
shouted at everyone to just run and was a really loud crashing noise but ididn't was a really loud crashing noise but i didn't stop to look back. it was just a kind of immediate stampede in the opposite direction. catalan police are treating this as a terror attack. two people have been arrested. they dismissed earlier reports that gunmen were holed up in a bar in the city.